GTS Utah @ Portland 3/29/13

How many three's does Gordon hit?

Jazz by 4
Gordan with 3

I'm in agony, this could go either way so I'll homer up.

Jazz 1
Gordo 3

Portland by 5
two

Portland will bring it or be cashing it in this year? Blazers by 5 Gordo 3

Blazers by 10.
GH with 1.

Jazz by 6, 2 3's

Jazz by 5
Haywood with 2 threes

Jazz by 6, Gordon w/ 3 3s

Never fails to blow my mind...

Al Jefferson in the first half, 18 minutes, 16 pts, 8-13 shooting, 5 rebounds, 1 stl, 1 TO.... and -14 in a game the Jazz are only losing by 10...How is that possible?

I was just coming on to talk about that man......I've really watched Al the last month or so, and tonight is showing every reason in the world why Al is -14 on the night. His defense is shockingly bad. You guys watch him on the pick and roll, and it is SHOCKING how slow Al is. These guys are running right past him. Al losing his man underneath....I mean, this guy is amazing at letting the other team score. Amazing. Any surprise that Meyers Leonard is about to have a new career high in his young rookie season? Not surprised here.

And here is Tyroneey making is idiot rotations again, playing all the offense guys instead of the ones who can defend. No Burks, more Foye. No Paul, more Al. I can't stand it.

Just to top off his own stupidity, Tyroney starts Favors the 2nd half over Jefferson........AS IF. As if thats the problem, Paul. Was it for size? No, Hickson was in there. So IDIOT TYRONEY thinks that Al needs to stay, and Paul out. SHOCKING.
You know what would of happened had he sat Al to start the 2nd half and started Paul and Fav??? The Jazz would have taken off.......FIRE BALONEY TYRONEY NOW.

Good win though Jazz, nice come back, way to keep fighting. Mo looking great. (Draft Burke, keep Mo, boom, boom.)

Mutangclan wrote:

I was just coming on to talk about that man......I've really watched Al the last month or so, and tonight is showing every reason in the world why Al is -14 on the night. His defense is shockingly bad. You guys watch him on the pick and roll, and it is SHOCKING how slow Al is. These guys are running right past him. Al losing his man underneath....I mean, this guy is amazing at letting the other team score. Amazing. Any surprise that Meyers Leonard is about to have a new career high in his young rookie season? Not surprised here.

And here is Tyroneey making is idiot rotations again, playing all the offense guys instead of the ones who can defend. No Burks, more Foye. No Paul, more Al. I can't stand it.

Just to top off his own stupidity, Tyroney starts Favors the 2nd half over Jefferson........AS IF. As if thats the problem, Paul. Was it for size? No, Hickson was in there. So IDIOT TYRONEY thinks that Al needs to stay, and Paul out. SHOCKING.
You know what would of happened had he sat Al to start the 2nd half and started Paul and Fav??? The Jazz would have taken off.......FIRE BALONEY TYRONEY NOW.

Good win though Jazz, nice come back, way to keep fighting. Mo looking great. (Draft Burke, keep Mo, boom, boom.)

Ya, the Vet's really stepped up in this one. As much as I hate that Ty seems intent on riding Big Al right through to the finish here, his move to start Favors and sit Millsap worked. He said he did it because of Millsaps 3 fouls and he wanted the guys that started the second half to not hold anything back. Clearly Favors didn't, as he almost fouled out, and that unit brought the Jazz back into the game, at which point Millsap came in and finished the job.

Still so much I dislike about the rotations, so so much, but the Jazz are playing better, and a big part of that is clearly because of changes implemented by Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013) and executed by the players.

I can't tell you how much I respect all of the Jazz players right now. I didn't think they could overcome the mental beating they had put on them over the last couple weeks, just because they are human and that meat grinder of emotion, turmoil, negaitvity, uncertainty and failure usually tears teams apart. But this team has stayed together and all of their talk about still fighting as a team isn't just lip service. So so impressive.

TheMagnus wrote:

Still so much I dislike about the rotations, so so much, but the Jazz are playing better, and a big part of that is clearly because of changes implemented by Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013) and executed by the players.

I can't tell you how much I respect all of the Jazz players right now. I didn't think they could overcome the mental beating they had put on them over the last couple weeks, just because they are human and that meat grinder of emotion, turmoil, negaitvity, uncertainty and failure usually tears teams apart. But this team has stayed together and all of their talk about still fighting as a team isn't just lip service. So so impressive.

Mag, what is Tyroneee implementing thats not out of necessity?? What am I missing here? I can't believe he's getting some positive endorsments from you.......I'm pretty sure DC not getting any play tonight against Batum for example, or Tinsley's 16mins to Burks 14mins is still ABSURD. Marvin 14mins and no DC still absurd. Sitting Paul instead of Al is still absurd. Al playing 37minutes is still absurd. Foye 29 MINUTES!!!??? Instead of more Burks or DC????!! And again doing a whole lot of nothing??!! IDIOT.

These guys are coming together DESPITE Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013), not because of him.

Mutangclan wrote:

TheMagnus wrote:

Still so much I dislike about the rotations, so so much, but the Jazz are playing better, and a big part of that is clearly because of changes implemented by Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013) and executed by the players.

I can't tell you how much I respect all of the Jazz players right now. I didn't think they could overcome the mental beating they had put on them over the last couple weeks, just because they are human and that meat grinder of emotion, turmoil, negaitvity, uncertainty and failure usually tears teams apart. But this team has stayed together and all of their talk about still fighting as a team isn't just lip service. So so impressive.

Mag, what is Tyroneee implementing thats not out of necessity?? What am I missing here? I can't believe he's getting some positive endorsments from you.......I'm pretty sure DC not getting any play tonight against Batum for example, or Tinsley's 16mins to Burks 14mins is still ABSURD. Marvin 14mins and no DC still absurd. Sitting Paul instead of Al is still absurd. Al playing 37minutes is still absurd. Foye 29 MINUTES!!!??? Instead of more Burks or DC????!! And again doing a whole lot of nothing??!! IDIOT.

These guys are coming together DESPITE Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013), not because of him.

The changes to the offense that were talked about on a couple of other threads, though months late, have been very very good and have made a huge difference in the way the Jazz are playing, and I think they have helped to make everybody feel like they can contribute, which is a big thing for chemistry. You're right about the rotations, and the Jazz aren't going to be able to beat quality opponents with those guys getting those minutes, but I'm seriously much happier watching those guys play now that they are at least playing decent team basketball, so I'm not going to do to much nit picking... until they start losing again anyways.

JAZZ won by 10
GH had two 3's

Another game where I would have picked different if I knew who was out (Aldridge). Oh well, it's great to get a win. Mo really took over the game!

TheMagnus wrote:

Mutangclan wrote:

TheMagnus wrote:

Still so much I dislike about the rotations, so so much, but the Jazz are playing better, and a big part of that is clearly because of changes implemented by Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013) and executed by the players.

I can't tell you how much I respect all of the Jazz players right now. I didn't think they could overcome the mental beating they had put on them over the last couple weeks, just because they are human and that meat grinder of emotion, turmoil, negaitvity, uncertainty and failure usually tears teams apart. But this team has stayed together and all of their talk about still fighting as a team isn't just lip service. So so impressive.

Mag, what is Tyroneee implementing thats not out of necessity?? What am I missing here? I can't believe he's getting some positive endorsments from you.......I'm pretty sure DC not getting any play tonight against Batum for example, or Tinsley's 16mins to Burks 14mins is still ABSURD. Marvin 14mins and no DC still absurd. Sitting Paul instead of Al is still absurd. Al playing 37minutes is still absurd. Foye 29 MINUTES!!!??? Instead of more Burks or DC????!! And again doing a whole lot of nothing??!! IDIOT.

These guys are coming together DESPITE Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013), not because of him.

The changes to the offense that were talked about on a couple of other threads, though months late, have been very very good and have made a huge difference in the way the Jazz are playing, and I think they have helped to make everybody feel like they can contribute, which is a big thing for chemistry. You're right about the rotations, and the Jazz aren't going to be able to beat quality opponents with those guys getting those minutes, but I'm seriously much happier watching those guys play now that they are at least playing decent team basketball, so I'm not going to do to much nit picking... until they start losing again anyways.

Well the offense is better. I just can't believe that Tyroney is still doing the same thing that has been so freaking unsuccessful: playing the offensive minded vet over the players that get it done on both ends. Foye 29minutes 1-5 of course, no real D. DC 0mins, Burks only 14.....And if this sounds familiar, it's because Tyroney did the same thing last year end of year, pulling a VERY successful DC and playing Josh Howard instead. Same, same, same mistakes, never learning from them or making changes. A TRUE sign of a terrible coach

Mutangclan wrote:

TheMagnus wrote:

Mutangclan wrote:

TheMagnus wrote:

Still so much I dislike about the rotations, so so much, but the Jazz are playing better, and a big part of that is clearly because of changes implemented by Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013) and executed by the players.

I can't tell you how much I respect all of the Jazz players right now. I didn't think they could overcome the mental beating they had put on them over the last couple weeks, just because they are human and that meat grinder of emotion, turmoil, negaitvity, uncertainty and failure usually tears teams apart. But this team has stayed together and all of their talk about still fighting as a team isn't just lip service. So so impressive.

Mag, what is Tyroneee implementing thats not out of necessity?? What am I missing here? I can't believe he's getting some positive endorsments from you.......I'm pretty sure DC not getting any play tonight against Batum for example, or Tinsley's 16mins to Burks 14mins is still ABSURD. Marvin 14mins and no DC still absurd. Sitting Paul instead of Al is still absurd. Al playing 37minutes is still absurd. Foye 29 MINUTES!!!??? Instead of more Burks or DC????!! And again doing a whole lot of nothing??!! IDIOT.

These guys are coming together DESPITE Ty Co (former Utah Jazz coach 2011-2013), not because of him.

The changes to the offense that were talked about on a couple of other threads, though months late, have been very very good and have made a huge difference in the way the Jazz are playing, and I think they have helped to make everybody feel like they can contribute, which is a big thing for chemistry. You're right about the rotations, and the Jazz aren't going to be able to beat quality opponents with those guys getting those minutes, but I'm seriously much happier watching those guys play now that they are at least playing decent team basketball, so I'm not going to do to much nit picking... until they start losing again anyways.

Well the offense is better. I just can't believe that Tyroney is still doing the same thing that has been so freaking unsuccessful: playing the offensive minded vet over the players that get it done on both ends. Foye 29minutes 1-5 of course, no real D. DC 0mins, Burks only 14.....And if this sounds familiar, it's because Tyroney did the same thing last year end of year, pulling a VERY successful DC and playing Josh Howard instead. Same, same, same mistakes, never learning from them or making changes. A TRUE sign of a terrible coach

In defense of Foye's D, he's not that bad, he actually does a pretty good job of getting position and knowing when to do what against who, plus I think he is a bit of an under-rated athlete, still you are right, definitely getting too much burn right now.

Mo Williams is actually the guy that I have been most disappointed with defensively. He was supposed to be an upgrade over Harris, but he's not even been close to that, he's been terrible, the worst of all of our PG's defensively.

TheMagnus wrote:

Mutangclan wrote:

Well the offense is better. I just can't believe that Tyroney is still doing the same thing that has been so freaking unsuccessful: playing the offensive minded vet over the players that get it done on both ends. Foye 29minutes 1-5 of course, no real D. DC 0mins, Burks only 14.....And if this sounds familiar, it's because Tyroney did the same thing last year end of year, pulling a VERY successful DC and playing Josh Howard instead. Same, same, same mistakes, never learning from them or making changes. A TRUE sign of a terrible coach

In defense of Foye's D, he's not that bad, he actually does a pretty good job of getting position and knowing when to do what against who, plus I think he is a bit of an under-rated athlete, still you are right, definitely getting too much burn right now.

Mo Williams is actually the guy that I have been most disappointed with defensively. He was supposed to be an upgrade over Harris, but he's not even been close to that, he's been terrible, the worst of all of our PG's defensively.

Sure, but as usual it's not about how good or bad Foye is etc, it's how good DC is and Burks is. Having to make the comebacks when maybe if the best players were played we wouldn't have the issues we have. But, as usual, this is just a broken record.

One really good thing about Kanter going down though, is that we'll finally get real minutes with Fav and Paul on the court at the same time. Finally. With Kanter healthy, it was the same old rotation, taking Paul out every 1st quarter for Fav, when it should have been Al coming out. So Paul and Fav never got that many minutes, which could be our best lineup of bigs.

Good to see that fight.

Mo was much better in the second half...that's the level they need him to be at. And it's hard not to agree that we need more DC and Burks. But as long as they win...