GTS Clippers @ Utah 12/3/12

Agree that the bench looked pretty bad, but at least Hayward is playing like a confident player. Taking J's off of screens & taking the ball to the rim regularly.

Agree that Jefferson had a nice night. Anytime that Al is getting close enough to the basket to get a couple dunks, is a good night.

Agree that Millsap looked better. I think Paul has looked like he's is playing harder the last few games. Being more like the Millsap of old that would outwork ANYONE. Still having some issues putting the ball in the hole, but he is capable of doing more than just scoring.

Agree that the late game flop should be a fine-able offense. And it wasn't the first time Chauncy flopped in the game either. On the other hand, no way they should have been that close either.

Tough loss.

Clippers win by 1.
Kanter has 8pts+4reb = 12 (B)

Crunch time, Clips go with the pick-and-roll against Jefferson multiple times and Chris Paul gets to the rim when Jefferson can't stay infront of him or cut him off for an easy bucket. Brilliant coaching by DelNegro. Corbin takes Jefferson out so it can't happen again but it's too late. Yes, the Billups three free throws was BS as well.
How about a zone defense to throw off the pick-and-roll every once in a while. They exploited Jefferson.

aliveandkickin wrote:

Crunch time, Clips go with the pick-and-roll against Jefferson multiple times and Chris Paul gets to the rim when Jefferson can't stay infront of him or cut him off for an easy bucket. Brilliant coaching by DelNegro. Corbin takes Jefferson out so it can't happen again but it's too late. Yes, the Billups three free throws was BS as well.
How about a zone defense to throw off the pick-and-roll every once in a while. They exploited Jefferson.

Thought about that too. The Jazz went zone a couple times in this game and the Clippers got some good looks against it, so I can understand why Corbin would hesitate to do it, but when Jefferson is getting repeatedly isolated in situations he can't win it might be worth a try.

- Jazz have played at great level several times this season in spite of losing games

- Jazz seem to have solved the long shooting issue with very good grade; they're a confident 3 point shooter team and now they can play the "choose your poison" game most nights

- Jazz probably wouldn't have lost the game with Favors on board... or with another set of zebras...

- Corbin make mistakes... but he's growing along with the players confidence in their coaching staff...

- Millsap's slowly coming back from wherever he was lately; now he's got to just stay true to who he is and stop trying to be what he's not equipped to be... just do great what you can do great and you will contribute more to winning games... you will be overpaid in SLC or at some other place, so stop trying to play like a 15M per dude....

I actually thought the Clips game was a bellweather of the Jazz this season. Even when they play well, and even have dominant quarters, they let lots of so-so teams, not to mention the good ones, simply turn up their game, take the Jazz out of theirs and pull away. The Jazz don't seem to have "answers" when other teams get it going on. No creative defensive schemes or clever match-ups. The games pretty much ebb and flow on whether more than 3 core guys are having a good night or not - very individualistic. Hard to imagine that the Jazz without Mo, Big Al and Sap could take Miami to the final minute....Just not seeing much team mojo out there. As deep as they are one would think the coaching staff could find some rotations and combinations that really flowed well together. As we get deeper into the season I'm not seeing this team getting much above 0.500 ball if it all comes down to aligning the hoops planets so at least 4 guys a night in a 10 man rotation consistently have good games.

MTJazz wrote:

I actually thought the Clips game was a bellweather of the Jazz this season. Even when they play well, and even have dominant quarters, they let lots of so-so teams, not to mention the good ones, simply turn up their game, take the Jazz out of theirs and pull away. The Jazz don't seem to have "answers" when other teams get it going on. No creative defensive schemes or clever match-ups. The games pretty much ebb and flow on whether more than 3 core guys are having a good night or not - very individualistic. Hard to imagine that the Jazz without Mo, Big Al and Sap could take Miami to the final minute....Just not seeing much team mojo out there. As deep as they are one would think the coaching staff could find some rotations and combinations that really flowed well together. As we get deeper into the season I'm not seeing this team getting much above 0.500 ball if it all comes down to aligning the hoops planets so at least 4 guys a night in a 10 man rotation consistently have good games.

Agreed. They're a few plays every night away from having 4-5 more wins. This tells me Corbin is getting a lot from the players but also exploiting match-ups needs to happen. Having the Big Three in when Favors is healthy helps protect the rim. Sap can post a SF and Al can still be a weapon around the 15-18 feet range with jumpers if his man doubles Sap. Favors can get alley-opps if his man doubles by following his defender to the basket if he doubles Sap.
I see it happen clearly in my head but so far Corbin needs to exploit Saps strength over a SF. Kyp- know your personnel... especially in crunch time. Having that extra "umph" with having a penetrating backup PG really opens the floor as well..next yr that'll happen I hope.
still have hope for the playoffs and up to 46-48 wins this yr. The team needs SWAG though!! The Clips during warmups were doing highlight dunks bringing "ohs and ahs" from the crowd. Even cp3 was in on the warmup dunks. Swag.

The Voice of Reason wrote:

Dude of course the refs made some bad calls. They always do. For both teams. But the worst calls of them all tonight were those made by Corbin. Or weren't made by Corbin.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/chauncey-billups-latest-to-receive-warning-for-flopping-video/

Looks like the nba was thinking it was a little more than another one of those bad calls?
No news on corbin being warned for bad coaching as of yet?

Richardale wrote:

The Voice of Reason wrote:

Dude of course the refs made some bad calls. They always do. For both teams. But the worst calls of them all tonight were those made by Corbin. Or weren't made by Corbin.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/chauncey-billups-latest-to-receive-warning-for-flopping-video/

Looks like the nba was thinking it was a little more than another one of those bad calls?
No news on corbin being warned for bad coaching as of yet?

Don't count stern out just yet. It wouldn't be the first time this week he fined a coach (team) on account of the coach's decision.

The Voice of Reason wrote:

Richardale wrote:

The Voice of Reason wrote:

Dude of course the refs made some bad calls. They always do. For both teams. But the worst calls of them all tonight were those made by Corbin. Or weren't made by Corbin.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/chauncey-billups-latest-to-receive-warning-for-flopping-video/

Looks like the nba was thinking it was a little more than another one of those bad calls?
No news on corbin being warned for bad coaching as of yet?

Don't count stern out just yet. It wouldn't be the first time this week he fined a coach (team) on account of the coach's decision.

I'm thinking 250 thou for floping! It'll put a end to floping,

Richardale wrote:

The Voice of Reason wrote:

Richardale wrote:

The Voice of Reason wrote:

Dude of course the refs made some bad calls. They always do. For both teams. But the worst calls of them all tonight were those made by Corbin. Or weren't made by Corbin.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2012/12/05/chauncey-billups-latest-to-receive-warning-for-flopping-video/

Looks like the nba was thinking it was a little more than another one of those bad calls?
No news on corbin being warned for bad coaching as of yet?

Don't count stern out just yet. It wouldn't be the first time this week he fined a coach (team) on account of the coach's decision.

I'm thinking 250 thou for floping! It'll put a end to floping,

How about fining the officials that call the flop? Yeah it was a flop, but everyone could see that in full speed and the officials still made the call. This flopping problem has gone on long enough, that the officials should know it when they see it, I do.

So yeah fine or suspend the players that are multiple offenders, but hold the FN refs accountable for it as well. That foul call effected the outcome of that game. Is a warning to that flopping bitch going to give the Jazz the win that they likely would have earned had that not been called?

Romoholic wrote:

How about fining the officials that call the flop? Yeah it was a flop, but everyone could see that in full speed and the officials still made the call. This flopping problem has gone on long enough, that the officials should know it when they see it, I do.

So yeah fine or suspend the players that are multiple offenders, but hold the FN refs accountable for it as well. That foul call effected the outcome of that game. Is a warning to that flopping bitch going to give the Jazz the win that they likely would have earned had that not been called?

My understanding is that the refs are diciplined in some way (not sure if it's $$) for certain thinigs, but the league doesn't release that information.