The official round 1 game 2 thread.

Here you go guys.

Romoholic wrote:

Here you go guys.

Well,that was weak and don't look to me to make it better. I have this, though.

Jazz need to show differently in Game 2 if they have a prayer for stealing one in San Antone. A freak game on the road where they come in on all cylinders. Otherwise SA is going to spank their ass for an 0-2 lead, just like the last ass-whupping.

I'm really freaking irritated that Howard is starting again instead of DC. We need a scorer off the bench that can get his own shot, and DC and crew had created some continuity starting out. Ugh.

Maybe Corbin is planning on playing the starters 48 mins tomorrow.

Really though I want to see Harris come out and push the ball. Get up and down the freaking court. For hells sake don't wait until halfway through the 3rd quarter to put Favors, Sap and Al in together.

Romoholic wrote:

Maybe Corbin is planning on playing the starters 48 mins tomorrow.

Really though I want to see Harris come out and push the ball. Get up and down the freaking court. For hells sake don't wait until halfway through the 3rd quarter to put Favors, Sap and Al in together.

I agree. Why not ride the Big Three pony harder and with more minutes together? Hard to second-guess a pro coach but at this point I would feature Favors until he fouls out alongside the mentioned. The Jazz will at best shoot average or slightly above from 15 feet and out on their best day, they will never kill you from there with these shooters. They can however get more layups, slams and general paint work done than they did in Game 1. If they have a chance its going to be because they got a better grip on Parker, (doubtful,) or they owned the paint on O and D. Plus, the bench has to at least keep it even this time. Tough team to beat, gotta bring the "A" game.

Thanks, Romo, for getting the Jazz talk still talking about the Jazz. I'm not sure why we need this since the TribTalk is still up and running, but there's definitely more Jazz talk on this site than on TribTalk. The Tribtalk is still easy to navigate, so, I have to ask everyone why they find this site more appealing. (So, I ask all here that question.)

I'm posting on both sites. But, it seems that people are posting on this site the exact same stuff they would normally be posting on the Trib site. I really don't see how this is an improvement over the TrbTalk site. I gladly joined your site when you started it a year or so ago as an option if the TribTalk went completely down. But, the Trib site never went down, so I followed the Trib site. I don't mind too much following this Jazz fan site, but, I still feel the Trib site, as long as it is running, is a more appropriate forum. I may be wrong in my opinion, but, I think a forum tied to the major media newspaper of a given area should be the primary forum for our discussions. When we respond on TribTalk, the newspaper (the Trib and Deseret News) have immediate access to what their readers think. When we respond on this site, the media has to spend extra dollars just to get a pulse on public opinion. Newspapers, and, yes, even the Tribune, provide an extremely valuable asset to the public by focusing on what concerns their readers. Unfortunately, newspapers are getting pushed out of the market for reporting accurately the events of the day by sensationalistic "news" media that is unrestricted by any governing structure that validates the accuracy of their reports. More and more this results in people getting misinformation presented as fact.

I'm not at all trying to say we shouldn't be having these discussions on this forum. But, I think we could be having the same discussions on the TribTalk forum, and it would let all of us have the opportunity to remain active in non-sports related discussions.

I like it here better. Wait and see, this place will have tons of people in a yr.

Anyone read David Lockes article about stopping Parker? I haven't yet but will go to it in a minute and post his thoughts.

http://weareutahjazz.com/lockedonjazz/2012/05/01/podcast-nba-scout-on-jazz-v-spurs-and-guarding-parker/

The above is an interview with a scout on stopping Parker

Saint Louis wrote:

I'm not at all trying to say we shouldn't be having these discussions on this forum. But, I think we could be having the same discussions on the TribTalk forum, and it would let all of us have the opportunity to remain active in non-sports related discussions.

Biggest reason, is according to Mags forwards of the TT admin, the tribtalk is going down. Its current state is irritating to me personally. But if it goes down, its going to be pretty hard to get everyone immediately over to another site. Much better to get everyone on board gradually, until it's 100% filled with the Tribtalkers, and have this great site up and running. If TT all of a sudden shits the bed, then we're all screwed.
Sounds like it's inevitable that TT is going away, good we have this one now.

MTJazz wrote:

Romoholic wrote:

Maybe Corbin is planning on playing the starters 48 mins tomorrow.

Really though I want to see Harris come out and push the ball. Get up and down the freaking court. For hells sake don't wait until halfway through the 3rd quarter to put Favors, Sap and Al in together.

they owned the paint on O and D. Plus, the bench has to at least keep it even this time. Tough team to beat, gotta bring the "A" game.

These two; Devin needs to come out and run his ass off. Then the big 3, and others need to own the paint. Even if scoring is tough, need to dominate on the glass. This team can do that. Defense and rebounding wins games, and this team can do both. Scoring will come.
Personally, I'd like to see Kanter get in there and drop the mic on the Spurs, grabbing every rebound that comes his way, in his minutes. Motivate his teammates...

I predict a 12 point loss.

That is all.

The Voice of Reason wrote:

I predict a 12 point loss. That is all.

The Las Vegas spread is Spurs by eleven and a half, so you are right in there. I think the Jazz beat the spread.

Mutangclan wrote:

I'm really freaking irritated that Howard is starting again instead of DC. We need a scorer off the bench that can get his own shot, and DC and crew had created some continuity starting out. Ugh.

I agree with you, but I am desperately trying to look for some upside. I think this may be it: If I recall correctly, Howard played much better as a starter than he did off the bench, so maybe that could come in to play. Magnus probably knows where to check his play as a starter versus his play as a bench player. However, even if that has been the case, Howard could be rusty now. Hopefully, Howard will step up and have a great game.

There's only one way to beat the Spurs: You have to make your jumpshots.
If you do it, then three things happens: Spurs really have to actually play honest defense all the time, Jazz interior personnel have room to operate, and, last but not least, the Spurs will be forced more often than not to play their half court sets.

Make your jumpshots, that's the key. There's no way to stop them with an all-defense centered approach; they're just too talented and too darn well assembled.

And for all the pagan goddesses sake: make a hard foul or two to let them know you're there.

Crunchtime1 wrote:

Mutangclan wrote:

I'm really freaking irritated that Howard is starting again instead of DC. We need a scorer off the bench that can get his own shot, and DC and crew had created some continuity starting out. Ugh.

I agree with you, but I am desperately trying to look for some upside. I think this may be it: If I recall correctly, Howard played much better as a starter than he did off the bench, so maybe that could come in to play. Magnus probably knows where to check his play as a starter versus his play as a bench player. However, even if that has been the case, Howard could be rusty now. Hopefully, Howard will step up and have a great game.

Howard has shot the ball significantly better as a starter, and played significantly more minutes when he starts (28 vs. 18) , but his per minute production in all categories is pretty much the same. The problem is that he grew into that roll, and then he sat a month, so how far has he regressed? Is he January Josh Howard (not good) or is he February Josh Howard (not bad).

Howard is interesting because for the Jazz on the year as a whole it seems to make little difference how much he plays or whether he is on or off the court. Most guys either hurt you or help you, guys that are actually just average are pretty rare, but Josh Howard seems to be one of those guys this year. The Jazz are .500 when he starts and when he doesn't, his WS/48 and PER are a little below average.

Another way to look at it would be that there is little difference between him and DC or him and Miles or him and Bell (if you take Haywards minutes as a constant) in terms of production and wins when it comes right down to it. I don't think any of us would argue that if you are relying on any of those 4 guys to be the 2nd best guy in your wing rotation then you don't have the backcourt you need to be a contender.

So when you really step back and look at it, the more a Howard/DC argument seems like arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic. Neither of those guys are really going to make a huge difference for the Jazz, and the chances that one of them will is about the same regardless of who starts.

The things that will make the difference is playing Millsap more at SF, Favors playing more period, and Harris playing like he can and should. That is what I hope to see tonight.

I agree the wing players are a liability no matter who starts. I think you just have to go with which ever one is having the better game. Our back court boarders on pathetic. I'm actually starting to come over to the camp that say's you have to trade Al for a quality sg. It doesn't matter how good our front court is if it's gonna be counteracted my a well below average back court.

It's just about go time!

You have got to be FN kidding me. I'm really starting to get pissed . This game could be over by the end of the first quarter.

Harris is killing us! Bring Burks in with Favors and lets see what happens! Get Harris out

ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MISSING THE ENTIRE FIRST HALF!!!!!! Stupid work.

Mutangclan wrote:

ARRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! MISSING THE ENTIRE FIRST HALF!!!!!! Stupid work.

Lucky.

That was probably one of the worst halves the jazz played all season. I thought Millsap was going to try and foul out at the end he was so frustrated.

Harris and Jefferson have been utterly awfull

Well. Goodness. Historically pathetic display of playoff basketball. Has any team failed to crack 30 points at half time in the history of the league? Playing for some shred of pride the rest of the way and looking for redemption back in SLC. Awful, how demoralizing!

Not missing much. jazz are playing like they've been watching what the midia has been saying These guys need to play big out of the gates at home for game 3. Other wise it'll be over in 4! One win could turn thing around but it looks like its gonna have to be at home.

Jazz down 25 at the half, pretty much every one of those points came at the expense of the starters....

Devin Harris -27
Paul Millsap -26
Al Jefferson -24
Josh Howard -24

Jamaal Tinsley +4
Derrick Favors +7


The Jazz made exactly 4 jupshots in that entire half.

Time to think outside of the box coach...

I don't even think I can watch. I'm sure I'll hear all about the game at work tomorrow by all the Spurs fans.

Mark it down, big 3 lineup makes first appearance with 5 minutes left in th 3rd and the jazz down 32. Not really sure what coach Corbin was waiting for...

Jefferson is awfull tonight on both ends.